May 29, 2021

Real Estate Hack: How To Bundle Micro-Flips

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Real Estate Hack: How To Bundle Micro-Flips

Micro-flipping real estate is one of the hottest strategies right now, and on this week’s episode of The Real Estate Cash Chronicles, our guest describes how she bundled Micro-flips on one deal for a $9,000 profit.

If you’ve ever wondered how to start Micro-flipping real estate, listen in to learn how this week’s guest used the power of data to make quick profits in just a matter of months.

Meet Eudania

Eudania is a government worker of 18 years, and jumped into real estate as a side-hustle to secure a future for herself, family, and friends. She joined the Connected Investors’ community, built out her network, and dived into trainings.

Listen in as Eudania describes how she bundled her first Micro-flip: how she found the seller & end buyer, how she closed the deal, plus valuable tips she’s learned since closing several more deals.

Listen anywhere you hear podcasts or watch on YouTube, and don’t forget to claim your free Connected Investors’ account!

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Patrick (00:00):

On this episode of Cash Chronicles, we’ll find out how one investor from Charlotte, North Carolina found closed and micro flipped, three properties all at the same time.

Voiceover (00:12):

Welcome to this week’s episode of the Real Estate Cash Chronicles, where we speak with real investors from around the country to break down individual deals. They’ve completed showing you the actual timeline of events that it took to make a profit making money in real estate. Isn’t a mystery, it’s a step-by-step process, but once you complete one, you’ll never think about cash the same way let’s get started.

Patrick (00:36):

Welcome to this week’s episode of the Real Estate Real Estate Chronicle. On today’s episode, we talk to Eudania and how they sold three properties during one deal. Hey, for those of you who are new, my name is Patrick. [inaudible] proud host of the Real Estate Real Estate Chronicles and a member of the Connected Investors community. Hey, before we go too much further, let me just remind all of you wonderful listeners and viewers. Hey, follow us like us. Share us, yell at us on the top of a mountain, go in the middle of the street and tell people about it. There’s strength in the unity. Everybody. There’s something to gain from this, and we’re glad you’re along for the ride. All right. So if you also, when you have a chance, you want to go over to cix.com/Chronicles. And there’s a whole thing about learning how to wholesale for free. Okay. This is what Eudania specializes in. So Eudania, thanks for being on the show today and how are you doing?

Eudania (01:45):

I am awesome. Thank you so much for having me. I’m really happy to be here today.

Patrick (01:51):

Super man, absolutely. Our pleasure. We are very, very fortunate that you can take a few moments out of your busy, busy business life and hang out with us.

Eudania (02:02):

Thank you.

Patrick (02:03):

Yes ma’am. So Eudania yet let’s dive into these properties first. What was the process and finding these?

Eudania (02:14):

Well, the biggest thing for me was PiN, um, PiN made it, um, easy for me to find properties. And so every day for it took a little while for me to get my first three deals, which, um, I I’m so grateful for the process because it, it grew me in such a way that, you know, I wasn’t, you know, at first I was expecting for things to just fall into place right away, but it took some time for me and people need to know that sometimes it takes time and time stands for things I must earn. And so for me, um, every day I would hit PiN, I’d look at the properties. I would, what Ross would say. He would compare the ARV to the last sale. And so that’s what I did. And so I was reaching out by phone. I was reaching out by postcards.

Eudania (03:11):

I was writing postcards every single day. This is how badly I wanted it. And this is what I was willing to do, what length I was willing to go for me and my business and my success. And for quite a few months, I wasn’t getting much hits, but I felt like a success because I was doing it. I was doing it day in and day out. And I was talking to people and again, it started around March and then around. I want to say June, it really started gaining traction because I was filling up that funnel. I was filling it up and they were coming out. They were starting to come out and I was going out and I was looking at properties. Absolutely love it. Taking pictures, talking to sellers. And I came across one in particular and he called me, said, Hey, I got three properties.

Eudania (04:02):

Are you interested? Absolutely. When can we meet? And so I met him out on his property. I believe it was June 26th or July 1st. I’m not sure. I think he called you in 26. We met July 1st. Got it. Under contract, July 10th. And I immediately, after getting it under contract started to, um, look for buyer and then buyer posted on Connected Investors, love that process. People reaching out to me, making offers and got a buyer who wanted all three. And so I cut him a deal, you know, um, I believe in, um, helping each other, you know, because this is about, uh, this is a connection game of people’s, um, game. We have to connect with one another and help each other. And so, um, he bought all three for a hundred thousand dollars and, um, I made $9,000 and all I could hear in the back of my head was Ross saying, what was $5,000 student? What would $10,000 do for you and your family? And it literally, it changed my life. It changed the way I thought about money. I felt like I had learned how to fish and I would never be broke again. And it’s been, Oh goodness, um, almost a year now. And I have been closing on deals every month.

Eudania (05:39):

Just like that.

Patrick (05:42):

You just unpacked so much amazing information. That one, I want to say, thank you to, I’m going to, I got a couple little comments and then three, we’re about to break this process down because cause you did it and the pace and, and development that you just shared, that’s super duper normal for the person who’s lived it. Now me and you are going to help all the people who are where you were, uh, last March. But I got to, I got to mention power in PiN. I mean, here’s proof in the pudding from Eudania. And of course myself, Eudania. She mentioned Ross. That’s the CEO of Connected Investors. Um, you know, PIM is a great, great platform. Um, she, uh, Eudania, you mentioned process. She was looking at the comps. She was trying to figure out where her offer could be super fantastic. Um, you blew me away. I’m going to tell you I’m going to steal it. I’m going to take it to more masses, time things I must earn.

Patrick (07:00):

I’ve never heard that one before, so I am ultra grateful. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. The people business people, connections, man. I you’re like one of my kindred spirits. I’m so happy to be talking to you today. Uh, life is about people. Therefore, a business is about people, integrity, relationships, connections. It’s all about people. Um, thank you. And I got to tell you just personally, your passion, your energy it’s, uh, it’s, it’s attractive. Uh, it’s wearing on me. I mean, I’m always pretty pumped up, but you just got me more pumped up. So thank you for pumping me up. So now let’s dig a little deeper. So, uh, as we break this down all the way back with PiN and PiN for what we know is where you can find those discounted properties, those available off market properties. Um, tell me a little bit more about your experience with PiN and how by using PiN, you found this seller.

Eudania (08:19):

Okay. So what I would do every day is I would go, you know, I wasn’t necessarily doing what everybody else was doing. You know, you got to go here, you got to go into your own backyard. You got to go to Charlotte. And I felt like Charlotte was just saturated with a lot of investors. Um, not to say that I’m not afraid of the competition. I re I don’t really feel like there’s any competition when it comes to improving our own lives, just competition, um, with yourself, uh, going to the next level. And so that’s what I did. You know, I would go in day and see what counties I could go into, what counties had, um, smaller numbers of people, not the metropolitan statistical area where there’s a million or more. I wanted something smaller and also to be able to give back to certain communities.

Eudania (09:13):

And so I found this one community, um, had been talking to other investors about, um, called Anson County, very distressed area of Cora area. And I really felt like I could do some good there. And so while people were, Hey, you gotta stay away from this and you gotta stay away from this area. I’m not afraid to go into any area because where people are and live is where people need good housing. And so that’s what I wanted to do. And so I started to hit that area every day with postcards, with phone calls. And I found these, these, these three distress properties and he was ready to sell. He was ready, him and his wife wanted to buy a beach front property. Great. I can help you. I do. And we, we built, I built a great rapport over the phone with him before I even came and saw the properties.

Eudania (10:11):

And so when we met, it was like we had already known each other. We, you know, because we’d already established that. And so I went in, he was, you know, showed me all three properties in one day, took pictures, plenty of pictures. I made him an offer right there on the spot, had my contracts, I was ready to roll. Um, and that’s what I do with every property. I go see, I have a contract in hand full of how serious I am and not out of 10 I’ve, um, signed a contract right then and there. And so that’s what happened for me. And immediately after I got it under contract, I posted it right there on PiN. Um, w were right in my listings and people could view my properties. I got a lot of hits. I also posted it on Facebook marketplace, got a lot of hits from there.

Eudania (11:05):

Um, had to be very, um, these were my first property. So I wasn’t as specific as I probably could have been. Of course I’ve learned since then, you know, because I got everybody asking, can you take payments? Can you, you know, um, is there seller financing? And so that in itself, bad question drove me to start looking at seller financing as well. And so that’s where I am today, but, um, yeah, I mean, it was really an, I don’t want to say easy. It was simple. It was a simple process. Wasn’t easy, but it was a simple one that I can understand that I could relate to when that I could follow. And so that’s what I did every single day. And I still do it. I still do it to this day because what’s not, uh, you know, it’s not broke, so why fix it? You know, I have a lot of investors who invest a lot of money, time and effort into other forms of marketing me. I keep it simple for now because that’s where I need to be. I need simplicity in my own life. Um, I also have a job, um, have been at for 18 years with the department of Homeland. And so I’m looking to close out that career with real estate investing full time,

Patrick (12:27):

Man. Again, again, just thank you. You, I mean, I I’m really enjoying this. So

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Patrick (12:50):

Really enjoying this. So a couple more things. Um, so back to the, uh, this, this, this owner, uh, seller property owner. So do you remember the filters you used in PiN to find this person?

Eudania (13:10):

Yes. Um, it was vacant. I looked in Denton County vacant properties, um, and a, or B grade and the V of course these were free and clear. Um, there were no mortgages on the property. And I think that was the only filter I use was the vacant. And then the, um, it had to be an a or B grade.

Patrick (13:32):

And I got to, I got to tell you one wholesaler to another man. I love vacant properties. I mean, I just feel like it is the, it is the most straightforward, simple, logical everyone wins conversation. Um, more often than not, I find that the homeowner has basically just, I don’t feel like worrying with it. Um,

Eudania (14:02):

What I was like, I’ll kick the upkeep anymore. I live too far away to keep coming over here, trying to take care of, you know, and my wife and I are trying to downsize. We want to buy another property somewhere else. It was perfect. It was a win-win for everyone

Patrick (14:20):

I’m music to my ears. So another question kind of getting back to your process, but also PiN, but maybe, maybe we’re taking PiN and we’re transitioning it into Eudania’s process. Do you remember which marketing outreach you found him? I mean, was it a handwritten postcard? Was it an email? Was it a text message? Was it a phone call? Do you remember?

Eudania (14:44):

It was a hand written postcard. Um, and what I would, I actually have some right here. I’m so glad I’m sitting here because I would go out every day. Well, not every day I would buy poster boards. And if you can see, I would cut them up myself again, this is how motivated I was and I would sit and I would write postcards and I would have people call me and say, you know what, Eudania, I just got your postcard in the mail today. And I wasn’t even thinking about selling until I got this postcard. You hand written, wrote this postcard and you know, it worked for me and it, it has been working for me. Um, people seem to be really taken by this and, um, yeah, it was a postcard. All of my, um, sales I’ve closed on. Hm. I don’t know umpteen.

Eudania (15:48):

I do, you know, I don’t even know the number right now, but it’s all, most of them have been by postcard. I think I closed on, I don’t know what it is about the threefold deal, but I’ve closed on several three-fold deals. Um, I closed on one in December. It was three of them for 270,000. I made 20,000 off of that. Um, and it was three properties all in one. And my buyer found me on Connected Investors. Um, yes, I mean, I’ve just had an amazing journey with, um, PiN and I’m so grateful, so grateful. I jumped in.

Patrick (16:25):

Awesome. That is awesome. And, and, and I’ve, you know, not about me, but I’ve had similar success and, you know, you said one thing, uh, a moment ago before you even had economic success, you felt success because you were doing it. And I think that’s so valuable for our listeners to know that you gotta do it. Um, and if you do it, you’ll probably figure out that it’s not easy, but it’s simple to duplicate and follow. Um, as Eudania has described to us. And then, I mean, I I’m, I’m just going to connect these dots, the people business with a personal touch handwritten postcards that then open a door for some rapport. Some chit-chat some relationship building. I mean, you are given us fire and thank you. Hey, I just want to remind our listeners that you can find properties like the one we’re talking about today and hundreds of off-market opportunities using the link in this description, or going to cix.com/Chronicles. You can also sign up for a free Connected Investors membership, where you have access to education, free resources, trainings, and more so go to connectedinvestors.com/cash, or click on the link and the video at the bottom of this videos description. This link also provides you with tons of information to sign up for the free membership program and gives you hundreds of online tools and resources. So you talked to the seller, you negotiated where you were getting him a hundred thousand dollars. You made a $9,000 profit. Fantastic.

Patrick (18:34):

And you, and you found your buyer on PiN as well. Tell us more about that.

Eudania (18:42):

And so they reached out, um, as soon as I posted it and he wanted to know more about it, he can, I view the properties. Absolutely. Now what I didn’t mention is the day I, um, got it under contract. I also put it lock boxes on the houses. Normally when I get a house under contract, I asked if I can put a lock box on it. So this won’t disturb the seller. It won’t disturb me. I won’t, you know, have to worry about the contractors coming in and out or, and, or partners having to see the property. Because again, I have many partners in other investors who are looking. And so, you know, he asked if he could see the property. Sure. Um, I make it so that when someone views any property I have under contract, when you get to the property, you text me and we’ll go from there.

Eudania (19:36):

They text me, I text you the code. When you come out, you let me know what you think he wanted them right away. As soon as he viewed the properties, when can we meet now? He had very limited English. Um, but somehow we were able to communicate and work around that. And, um, he didn’t want me to send him the contract via DocuSign or something like that. He wanted to meet in person. I had no problem. Um, now remember we’re in the middle of COVID and of course we’re having to mask up. We’re having to keep ourselves safe. But, um, I was willing to do that. Um, as long as everybody was following the guidelines in which we were under. And so we did meet, um, at a Panera bread and he had an interpreter with him. Um, it went so smoothly, sign the contracts.

Eudania (20:27):

I want to say two and a half weeks later, we closed the deal. Um, had a great lawyer, airy martial law, kudos to them. Um, they knew I was a newbie my first time around because I was emailing my closing paralegal every day. But, you know, again, I wouldn’t trade any of this because it has gotten me to where I am today. And so going through, you know, and I’m actually mentoring other people today and making sure they go through the entire process, because without it, you won’t know what it feels like when you get that first deal under contract. You won’t know if I do all the work for you, you’re not going to know. And so I’m helping others to do exactly what I did.

Patrick (21:21):

Yup. Yup. Yup. Your confidence is contagious and inspiring. Um, I too, from time to time, uh, chit chat with other people who, who may not have as much experience as me, who may not have much as much experience as you and by the doing, you start to gain confidence. And when you have confidence in yourself, you know, who also has confidence in you, your seller and your buyer,

Eudania (21:53):

The buyer, other investors, you better believe it. And so when you put, you know, when you put yourself in the mindset of being an investor, you’re then able to take the necessary steps as an investor confidently and then get the results you want. And so that, that’s what I’ve been doing. That’s what I continue to do. And that’s what I continue to pass along to others.

Patrick (22:18):

Okay. So amazing. I mean, just amazing. I can only speculate that probably through Connected Investors, me and you have watched some of the same things, listen to some of the same things. Awesome. I talked to some of the same people because again, some more hot value that Eudania had offered us is get those puppies on a lock box. We want to leave that seller alone. They’ve already met us at the property once. That’s all we want to bother them with. Okay. Right. We’re trying to make this as easy as possible. Um, she also mentioned the value in showing up with contracts and I absolutely recommend that if it’s, you know, your acquisition contract or your disposition contract, show up with them, uh, stand tall, look those people in the eyes, because your confidence will be contagious and they will know that they’re dealing with a professional like you, and then it all goes a little smoother. Would you agree?

Eudania (23:34):

I absolutely do agree. Um, I don’t know how many times. Yeah. I show up with the contract and they’re blown away. Okay. I’m ready. And um, I, one of my last deals, uh, I closed right there. I had a buyer the very next day. Um, I mean, it’s just, I think the more prepared you are, uh, you meet success a lot more quickly. And even when you don’t, even when you don’t, they’re all lessons, every deal that I’ve done there have been, I mean, invaluable lessons, even when they don’t, they fall through, wow, I didn’t know this. And now I do know this and now I know how to navigate through this the next time. And so I welcome it all. I am so grateful for the entire process. Uh, good, bad or indifferent. It’s all been valuable for me.

Patrick (24:33):

How important do you think the right mental attitude in this industry is

Eudania (24:40):

Number one, number one you have got. Yeah. Um, again, once I started thinking like an investor, that’s when success found me, because I then was able to take the necessary steps as an investor would be it right wrong. Or, you know, I was, I know sometimes I was navigating, you know, the way I was navigating, wasn’t the way somebody else might have. But I was following that intuition. I was trusting that I had enough information provided by pain, by other investors, by, uh, other resources that I had enough to be able to close on a deal. And that’s exactly what I’ve been doing since I started paying. And again, it didn’t come overnight for me. And I’m glad that it did because, because I’ve learned so many lessons along the way. And so if people need to know that, just because it isn’t working in a week, that it doesn’t work, they need to know. No. Now you, I remember, uh, another investor on CAI talks about having the fortitude to keep moving forward. Even when you don’t see the success you’re looking for. But knowing it’s just the head, just the head, you just got to keep pushing forward.

Patrick (26:03):

You’ve given me goosebumps now twice in the period of time that we’ve been talking and, and, and just, just, you’re amazing. I’m, I’m so grateful. I look forward to maybe me and you will just become pen pals after all this is over

Eudania (26:21):

Great. Patrick, I’d love that

Patrick (26:24):

A professional wholesaler for a little bit longer than you, but let me say that the first 90 to 120 days I stumbled, I fell, I stumbled. I fell, I chewed on my words. I confused myself, let alone my potential buyer and my potential seller. I mean, it was just a learning experience. And this is what I try to offer in life in wholesaling, in real estate and investment in other careers, you know what, when we all started to walk, we weren’t good at it immediately. It takes a little time when we went to our first day in middle school, it was uncomfortable. It was different. It was different than elementary school, but a week or two in the middle school, it was fine. When you got your first job, I got my first job. The first few days of that are uncomfortable fish out of water syndrome. But once you get used to the water, once you get used to the landscape and the coral and the other fish in that sea, then put your laser focus on and go get it done, man. That’s man, man, man, man. So I appreciate you. So, so I’m just, so these are wholesale deals. So, I mean, did you have to use any of your own money or did you have to use anything from private lenders.com?

Eudania (28:07):

No, I haven’t had to use any of my own money and the only the most money I’m using is when I go out and buy my cards and my stamps and that’s nothing. Um, I was maybe spending a hundred to $200 a month, um, in stamps postcards. Um, only because that’s what I was doing and so no money down. Um, you know, my buyers pay all closing costs and that’s understood from the very beginning, you know? Um, so there’s no confusion.

Patrick (28:43):

Absolutely. Absolutely. And I like how you had said earlier on the interview here, and it’s something else I recommend to people with less experience than you and I, but you know, you have many investment partners, you know, so this is what you say to your disposition potentials or, or your seller potentials that, that, and you’re not fibbing. I mean, you’re not, not at all. You have a commitment with them and you’re going to get them the money that you’ve agreed upon. Um, and the transparency is super valuable.

Eudania (29:27):

I agree. I agree. I always let them know. I have partners. I mean, Hey, I’m now I’ve been with Connected Investors almost a year. Now I’ve had over a thousand people I’m connected with. Um, I make it a point still to this day, every day I go into PiN, I go in to CGI and I look at who’s friending, me and I, and then I go in a little further and I friend other people, I make sure I’m connecting with wholesalers. I’m connecting with those who are wanting to learn. I’m connecting with the buy-in holes, the single family. I mean, I include everyone. And so now, while I’m not going to personally connect with everyone on a daily basis, I don’t know when and where they may need me or I may need them. And that’s just in Connected Investors. And on the outside, I also go one step further.

Eudania (30:22):

When I see those for, um, we buy houses, signs, I get the number. I connect those investors. I have had wonderful, um, outcomes because of that. And we’ve been able to join. I’ve been able to joint venture with some people only because I put myself out there. I connect with everyone who says, Hey, you’re an event. They’re an investor. Hey, I am too. Let’s connect. Let’s see what we can do together may not be this week. May not be this month. May not even be this year, but we, you know, we never know. Absolutely absolutely. Man,

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Eudania (32:01):

I I’m so happy that I’m barely needed to be here today. We probably could have just put a camera in front of you and your sharing is it’s life-changing. I mean, I’m not even trying to be dramatic. The information that you Don you’re sharing with us today is life changing the attitude, the fortitude, the go-getter mentality. This is what it takes, but here’s what I know about mankind and human nature. If you’re done, you can do it. And for what it’s worth, if Patrick can do it, show cannon any one else who wants

Patrick (32:40):

To do it?

Eudania (32:42):

Absolutely. I agree wholeheartedly if you want this, you’ll make it happen. Yep.

Patrick (32:48):

Yep, absolutely. Absolutely. And one of the things that I like to mention, but not in a negative way in a, in a realistic way. Um, and me and Sean White, uh, have discussed this many a times, whereas you will get more nos, then you will yeses. You move on as fast as you can from the nose. That’s okay. That’s part of the business, but don’t let the nose affect your drive, your determination, your attitude. And just that, that next yes is right around the corner.

Eudania (33:37):

I agree wholeheartedly, Patrick. And with moving away from those nos, you want to move away from those nos with a good report as well. Um, prime example, um, I got some nos back in may of last year and almost got them under contract. The guy was ready and he changed his mind last minute, broke my heart. You know, I’m just starting now. Um, but I let him know, you know, if ever in the future you’re, you’re ever looking to sell, please keep me in mind. That was in may. I got a call from him in December and he says, Hey Dana, do you remember me? Are you still buying houses? Absolutely. But then I had done several deals. We got his property under contract and closed in 15 days, I worked my butt cause he was like, I really need to have this done. You got another call a month ago. Same guy, Dana, I got another house. Would you like to buy it? You better believe it. So that wholesale, that one in 20 days. And so always walk away from those nos in good standing, good rapport. I don’t care how they speak to you. You leave it in good standing. Don’t take it personally, because like you said, Patrick, that yes is right around the corner,

Patrick (35:02):

Man. Your professionalism is astonishing. The information you’re sharing is priceless. I am a firm believer. Um, we may have fallen out of the same tree at some point, um, because I’m just in awe. I’m in awe of, of everything you’re saying. I mean, I’m jacked up over everything you’re saying. So I want to break down something, um, pretty boring ish. But I also think that there are many investors out there who have a small hiccup under this part. So your first deal, the three houses, the ninth comeback profit, you had mentioned, you know, uh, a closing law firm. Uh, so in the state of North Carolina, you have to use a closing law firm. How did you find the right law firm for our types of closing,

Eudania (36:03):

By asking, by putting myself out there, talking to other investors, Hey, um, who are you closing with? Have you closed on deals? Can you help me out? See, because everybody, you know, there are some investors I’m not gonna lie. You know who give you a lot of information because they feel like you’re the competition itself live in a world where I know beyond a shadow of a doubt, there is no scarcity. There’s nothing but abundance. So long as we’re looking for abundance, guess what’s going to find you a bundle. So what if you’re looking at the world through a scarcity eyes, it’s always going to feel like you’re, you’re, you’re having to scratch and grand for, um, for the last little bit and not give anybody else. So I just asked, I just asked and you know, I, I think because of my attitude, I’m always in front of the right people, the right people who want to share information who love doing exactly what I do see, because there’s nothing you can take away from me. There’s nothing, you know, what’s going to be, mine will be mine. And so, uh, again, Patrick, I just asked and this one told me this law firm, this one told me that law firm, but many, the commonality was this one particular law firm. But I said, maybe I’ll go with him. And so I have been with the same law firm and I’ve worked with a lot of their closing paralegals. Now everybody knows me because I’ve closed on enough deals and some now to pass this information on to the next investor.

Patrick (37:40):

So direct question, based on the information you just told us about, I’m going to call it your preferred closing law firm. They love you, don’t they? Yes,

Eudania (37:52):

Absolutely. Win-win I’m making money. They’re making money. I’m helping out a community. I mean, it’s just, it, it goes, it rolls over into one thing after the next I’m helping out a community, I’m helping out another investor. I’m helping out a seller. I’m helping out a law firm look at all of what I’m doing. How can you love me?

Patrick (38:21):

Well, I’m certainly gaining a lot of love and adoration, uh, in a quick matter of time. Um, again, I don’t need for, uh, any kudos for me, but everything you just said is absolutely how I feel when I’m out there in the marketplace every day. And I guess I say, is it feeling is one thing knowing is another. So I know and feel that way, everything, everything you just said is an absolute truth. Um, and you share it so well, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So if, um, if you can do one thing differently, if anything at all, and, and that first deal with the three properties, would you have changed anything?

Eudania (39:15):

Not necessarily changed anything I might have? Um, I think I kind of undersold myself. Um, I know the properties were probably worth a little bit more, um, yeah, I could have got, I was supposed to make 18,000, but because I don’t think it was desperation. I just wanted to know what it felt like to close on my first deals. And so I really cut this guy a great deal. He got all three for 9,000, whereas I felt like I, should’ve probably been making at least five to 10 off of each one of those houses. Um, so yeah, never, uh, always know your value and know that know your worth. And so just by my asking for more doesn’t mean I’m bringing less value to the other person. Uh, yes, they may be getting a little bit less, but I I’m, I’m worth it. I’m worth it at the end of the day I worked for this and I, I, you know, I’m getting out there and I’m, uh, I’m talking to the sellers, I’m making this thing happen day in and day out. I’m going out there taking the pictures. I’m making sure my end buyer has all the information on this house in order to make a logical decision in order to buy. And so, yeah, no, your worth.

Patrick (40:44):

So that’s the thing would that, that, that you would have learned from that is know your worth? I think it’s admirable that you wanted to feel that closing and get that check, especially for the first one. I mean, in your honesty and transparency is so valuable, but yes, probably every deal since then, uh, you give yourself a little better margin and you pull and you hold your ground. You good? You know what, when we learn how to ride bicycles, most of us started with training wheels also, you know, so you start, start slow, start small, go big, kick the wheels off, go huge, buy a motor for the motorcycle. So, so that being said a quirky weird, I’m a w I’m a weirdo situation. Um, you know, you’ve been in this now heavily for a little over a year. Most of that, or heck basically all of that inside of the pandemic. Um, as there, was there a moment of purchase of vacation, an aha moment where you said,

Eudania (42:02):

Oh, absolutely. Um, there’ve been, there’ve been many moments. Um, I think, um, the one that hit me the most was in December when I closed and I made $20,000 in one day and when the one deal and when the, um, check hit the bank, you know, the wire came in, I sat at my desk for the longest time just thinking, wow, I did this, I did this. And this is, you know, not just life changing life transforming. And so, and now I’m able to do things for family, friends, and, you know, I’m securing a future for myself. Uh, because again, I mentioned earlier, I’m trying to close out a 20 year career with the department of Homeland. I am ready. My mindset has moved into investor zone. And I got to say, I’m there more now than I, I, I am with my job. Um, love my job.

Eudania (43:11):

And I do it very well, but I’m ready for this change. And so, yeah, that was one of the moments. And then, um, right now I’m actually sitting in Washington state talking to you, um, being able to just book a flight and say, Hey, I’ll see you guys in a week. Uh, you know, my, to my family, I’m going to go check out the market over in Washington and see how things are out there. I have friends out here. And so I’m checking that out. I actually, we started sending postcards, uh, got a call and, uh, going to see a property this week in Charlotte. Let’s, let’s keep it moving. Let’s keep it. Thank you.

Patrick (43:58):

Thank you. I mean, just, just fire y’all I hope everybody’s gaining as much as I’m gaining and I don’t even know if I’m supposed to be the one gaining weight. I’m surely gaining and I am stoked. Um, I’ve got some calls to make this afternoon for my wholesaling career and I’m going to be fired up when I talk to those sellers. Um, Hey look, what habit would you credit your real estate success?

Eudania (44:27):

Hmm, well, definitely, um, PiN, because before PiN there, I hadn’t seen a platform like that and just all of the information inside of PiN, and yes, you can confuse yourself and get stuck on the analysis and then get paralyzed by it all. Or you can use what you see in front of you take what you need, leave the rest behind and apply what information you do have. Um, and also those cheering me on. I had, I had cheerleaders, you know, um, and of course my mother and my father have always been the biggest ones. Dana, you got the, I think my mother said it best. She said, Dana, there was something different about this venture than all the others, because listen, I have always believed that if this is failure and this is success and I keep moving and I keep taking a step, how much closer am I to success?

Eudania (45:42):

As long as I’m continuing to take those steps. And you know, like I said, my mother said it best. She said there was a fire in your eye that I had never seen. I soon as you know, and this is long before I got my first deal. I’m like, Oh my gosh, man, I sold this one property today. Absolutely beautiful. And you know, the seller wants this. I’m going to offer him this and see what he says. And so I think just the excitement of it all, um, staying exciting, staying excited, not losing that, um, and remembering why I’m doing what I’m doing,

Patrick (46:22):

Fire. Um, and the food he has is a word that I would use to describe our, our interaction today. And I’ve heard a few people use that at me. Um, I think it’s an amazing compliment and I love your enthusiasm it’s yes. Ma’am. Yes ma’am. Thank you. Thank you. So maybe one more little question. Um, and you probably have a relatively quick answer. Um, so from, from writing that handwritten postcard in PiN to closing at the law firm, and you walk it away with your 9,000, give me a timeframe from a to cash, how long?

Eudania (47:16):

Four months or

Patrick (47:17):

Months. Okay. But that’s four months at a part-time scenario because you, because you’ve got a real gig with the Homeland security, right? I mean, my usual question to anyone who’s listening, what would $9,000 do for you?

Eudania (47:39):

Absolutely. And that’s what I kept hearing. Pat. I kept hearing what would the ninth of 5,000, 10,000, what would that do for you and your family when it happened, man, again, life changing, life changing. I felt like someone had taught me how to fish and now I’ll never be hungry again. Never do that so long as I know how to do this, I’ll never be broke again.

Patrick (48:05):

Hot hot gave me goosebumps for the third time. I say, thank you. And actually I’m going to slowly work us towards the end here. So I’m going to say, thank you so much to Eudania for being on the show today. And lastly we have what’s called rapid fire. Okay. I’m going to ask you a series of questions. Um, you mean, you know, basically just answer them is fast. First thing that comes to your mind, you understand what I’m saying? Are you ready?

Eudania (48:37):

I’m ready. Let’s do it.

Patrick (48:39):

Scale of one to 10. How strict were your parents? Seven. Get up earlier, stay up late, get up early. How many hours of sleep do you get? If you came across an extra hundred thousand dollars, what would you do with it?

Eudania (48:55):

You invested back into real estate,

Patrick (48:58):

Favorite or last book read,

Eudania (49:02):

Um, in resonance.

Patrick (49:04):

If you could be any superhero, which one dorm, something everyone should do. Less of complaining something. Everyone should do more of phrasing gratitude, Bitcoin banger, bust, bang. And will people live in Mars? Live on Mars in your lifetime? I believe so. Yes. Yup, yup, yup. Yup, man. Oh man. Oh man. Thanks again for joining us. You Don. Yeah, it has been an absolute delight and pleasure. Um, I am so fortunate to be the happy Cash Chronicles podcast and YouTube host. Um, so again, I want to remind all of our listeners, if you want to start on this path, Connected Investors forward slash cash, follow the links at the bottom of this, share it with your family and your friends, support your structure. Get out there, make a difference. Start doing the darn thing, but share us like us. Follow us, put it in your heart, put it on your soul. And one thing I say to, Oh Lord, the people I talk to my mentees, the people I’m fortunate enough to have some influence on is if you make a commitment to yourself, live up to that commitment because the only person that you fail in a personal commitment is you is you. So until next time you guys stay safe, stay smart, stay happy, stay aggressive, and just stay with us. We’ll see you next time. Thanks a lot.

Patrick (50:59):

Want to be like a guest on our show and make some cash in real estate. Join the center of the real estate investing universe and start connecting with free education off market deals, cash buyers, and even funding partners. Connected investors.com has been changing the game for people around the country since 2005. So just visit Connected Investors.com forward slash cash. So you can start doing more with real estate, no matter where you are in your journey to financial freedom. Seriously guys, if you were brand new to this and looking to close your first deal, there is not a better headstart out there to help you find properties and learn what you need to make cash. If you’re already an experienced flipper or landlord, then Connected Investors gives you access to dozens of unique inventory sources and automation that can not be found on any other platform in the industry, connected investors.com forward slash cash. Go there, claim your free account, get your gift pack. And then, well, don’t look back, jump in and put that whole ecosystem to work for you because all guests of this show come directly from the connected investors community and would love to interview you after your first or next life-changing real estate deal. Peace y’all.

 

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Patrick Giarelli lives in beautiful Wilmington, North Carolina with his wife and dogs. Patrick is an open-minded, high-achieving individual who has had success not only in the real estate industry but also in wholesale jewelry. In addition to hosting The Real Estate Cash Chronicles podcast, Patrick currently helps scale-out one of the southeast's largest home-buying teams.

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May 28, 2021

This Is Why You Can’t Relate to Every Success Story You Hear out There

This business is not a get rich quick operation. There are a few stories where investors make a call and make $50,000 on their first wholesale deal, but it’s extremely rare. For the rest of us, it takes time.

The Snowball Effect

For the majority of us, it takes one to six months before we get our first deal. It’s hard to push through when you’re three months in without a deal, but do not stop here. In this business, it’s not a matter of if, but a matter of when. If you do the right lead generation techniques, make follow-up calls, and meet the sellers, a deal will happen. Trust me, it’s worth the wait.

Once you get your first deal done something miraculous typically happens. After you get some experience under your belt, closing deals will become second nature. Before you know it, you’ll be closing one deal per month which turns into two and maybe three. Are you picking up what I’m throwing down?

Here’s why:

Your skills improve:

The way you navigate through phone calls, how you position offers, and how you close a deal when you meet in person gets sharper and more refined the more you do it.

Your pipeline stays full:

As long as you’re constantly marketing your pipeline, your “potential deals” will increase, which leads to more opportunities to close deals.

Energy:

I believe whatever energy you put you will get back. If I doubt everyday that a deal won’t close, then I won’t close deals. If I believe and put out the energy that deals are going to happen, then things will start working!

As long as we make phone calls and offers then it’s inevitable that this business will work. So, never stop, it will get easier, and keep your pipeline full all the time to make the Snowball Effect work for you!

Take care, comb your hair!

Cody Sperber

PS: Check out my YouTube channel for more great training!

PPS: Before I let you go, I wanted to give you my eBook! Download it here!

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May 26, 2021

Make Money in Real Estate: Your Ticket to Financial Freedom

“Financial freedom.” What do those words mean to you? That likely depends on where you are in life. And, how exactly do does financial freedom happen when you make money in real estate?

Let’s say you’re 20-something. Financial freedom could be achieving a certain lifestyle without a lot of effort or investment. Or, if you’re 35–55, it could mean not having to be tethered to the 9-5 work treadmill in order to provide for your own future as well as your kids’ college tuition. And for those of you 55+, it could mean not having to worry about your golden years. 

Vastly different scenarios. Yet all three can take advantage of the same opportunity for potential financial freedom through wholesaling real estate. In fact, 90% of the world’s millionaires have invested in real estate!

How can you make money in real estate through wholesaling?

Wholesaling real estate is a strategy of finding a house that’s below market value or in need of repair, getting it under contract from the seller, then selling that contract for a profit to a buyer. There really aren’t any barriers to entry. Time, self-motivation and a willingness to learn will be your biggest commitments. Notice we didn’t say money as a commitment.

Let’s take a look at why wholesaling houses may work in your situation.

  • Millennials making money in real estate

Those of you in your 20s and early 30s may have grown up in a working-class home and neighborhood, watching your parents work 9-5 jobs, earning average incomes. Now that you’re an adult, you have a pretty solid idea of the lifestyle you’ve always wanted to have. You may not have the kind of job or income source to make it happen, but the thought of going back to school for several years to increase your earning potential just doesn’t appeal to you. You want to live that new lifestyle now. Rather than viewing this as a limitation, turn your ambition for something better into an opportunity to do your own thing, to be your own boss. 

Making money in real estate through wholesaling is perfect for this; it encourages you to tap into your “inner entrepreneur.” But how can you build a business that turns a profit in the short time frame you want? Here’s the cool thing: Social media has helped level the marketing playing field. And your generation has incredible fluency in social media technology. Make it work to your benefit! All that time you spent on SnapChat, Instagram, YouTube and TikTok that made your parents cringe can now work in your favor in marketing your new wholesaling adventure.

  • Mid-life careerists making money in real estate

Now what if you’re a bit older, say 35-55 years old? You may already be in a career, but one that isn’t generating the income you want or deserve. If you’ve got kids still living at home, you may have the added financial stress of paying for their upcoming or current college tuition, especially with skyrocketing education costs. All while trying to figure out how to plan for your own empty-nest future. 

That brings up another kind of freedom you may be craving: time freedom. Because you’re part of the “sandwich” generation, you may want to spend time with your kids and/or your aging parents — not on another job that places unreasonable demands on what’s left of your waking hours.

Wholesaling houses could be just the right kind of opportunity for you. If you’ve ever bought a house or have any experience in real estate, it could be a good segue into a new moonlighting option. And depending on how much time and effort you put into it the first few months or year or so, it could turn into a revenue stream that allows you to leave your current job. With little or no upfront money required to enter this field, it won’t put a dent into stretched finances, making it an even more appealing option.

  • Upcoming and current retirees making money in real estate

Those of you in the 55+ crowd may be wondering “what’s next?” Retirement may have snuck up on you more quickly than you anticipated. You’re realizing you haven’t saved up enough to last you through your golden years, a big consideration as we’re living longer than previous generations. Working past your desired retirement age isn’t something you were planning on, but looks increasingly likely if you aren’t already doing so. For you, financial freedom takes on a bigger sense of urgency. 

Wholesaling houses could become a sort of “hobby” for you, the kind of thing you do on your own schedule. Making money in this real estate niche market could supplement what you have already saved up, your social security benefits and your 401k. And you won’t need to dip into your own retirement savings to be successful in it.

You already have what it takes to be successful in it. you have the advantage of drawing on life experiences and skills you can apply to make it work for you — discipline, time management, in-person social connections, customer service and business acumen. Those skills still mean something today, despite everything going digital. Don’t consider yourself tech-savvy like those millennial young’uns? That’s okay. Lifelong learning is nothing new to you, and you can pick up enough of the technology basics to get by. 

Ready to live life and work on your terms?

Wanting financial well-being is not unique to any particular demographic. Wholesaling houses in your area can make a lot of sense as one way to get there. It doesn’t require a massive time commitment, a large monetary outlay or any formal classes. That makes it a rather low-risk way to make money in real estate.

That said, you must do some legwork upfront and be willing to learn a few things that may or may not be new to you. We’re here to help. At Clever Investor, we provide the encouragement and resources you need to make wholesaling real estate your ticket to financial freedom, whether it winds up being a whole new career or side hustle. You’ll learn:

  • All things wholesaling, including lingo of real estate and investing
  • How to market yourself and your business
  • How to write a business plan
  • And a lot more

It’s a field ripe with opportunity. Ready to live that new lifestyle, or feel more secure in the one you already have, with less money stress? Take the first step on your real estate journey »

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May 25, 2021

470: The 7 Tips @investorgirlbritt Used to Go from Amateur to Pro Investor


There has been a great feud between Brittany Arnason and Host of the BiggerPockets Podcast, Brandon Turner. Both of them have done lots of renovations on houses, secured millions in funding, and live right next to the beach in Maui, but only one of them has won a “quickest person to get to 200,000 followers on Instagram” battle. We’re happy to have the winner on our show as a guest today!

Brittany started out her real estate journey when she was 18 years old, buying her first rental property and tackling a multitude of different DIY projects. If you haven’t heard her story, you can check it out on episode 320. Now she’s back to talk about how she moved to Maui, hired out her employees, secured funding on commercial deals, and used social media to get her deals and connections.

Her biggest advice to new investors, “jump in before you’re ready”. You won't ever have all the answers, but those who get started will finish far ahead of those who always dream about being an investor. You can also help ease the stress and unforeseen speed bumps by getting in groups with other investors, following those you look up to on social media, and becoming a resource for future mentors.

In This Episode We Cover:

  • Using social media to find deals, mentors, employees, and friends
  • Generating leads in unorthodox ways 
  • Fighting back against imposter syndrome and seeing your strengths
  • Getting super cheap interest rates when closing on commercial mortgages
  • Why the bigger deals tend to be the more passive ones
  • Why whatever you believe can end up being true
  • And SO much more!

Links from the Show

Check the full show notes here: http://biggerpockets.com/show470



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May 24, 2021

471: What Michael Jordan and Kobe Taught Tim Grover about "Winning"


We like to think that we have a lot of winners on the BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast, whether they are in real estate or not. We may have one of the biggest winners on today's show. Tim Grovertrainer to Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant joins us to talk about overcoming adversity, developing a winning mindset, finding what makes you fail, and his new book, accurately titled Winning: The Unforgiving Race to Greatness

Tim argues that one of the hardest things to succeed in is business since there are so many factors that influence success. When you own or run a business, you’re constantly being thrown curveballs (like a global pandemic tied with government shutdowns). So how do you succeed when there is a constantly changing game plan? You adapt, you overcome, and you mitigate failure.

These are the exact lessons that Tim taught to his high-profile clients, like Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant, arguably the two greatest basketball players of all time. Before MJ and Kobe became the best, they had to master being average, then being good, then being great. So many people want to take shortcuts to greatness, not understanding that mastering those different levels is what truly puts you on a different stage than those who master the average level and give up.

In This Episode We Cover:

  • What really holds people back when they say they want something
  • Focusing on recovery and health before trying to up your abilities
  • Becoming a constant reminder to others to win and shoot for success
  • How to stop performing with emotion and start performing with energy
  • Stop confusing “finishing” with “winning”
  • Struggling with balance when succeeding in your career, family life, or anything else
  • And So Much More!

Links from the Show

Click here to check the full show notes: https://www.biggerpockets.com/show471



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May 23, 2021

BiggerPockets Podcast 471: What Michael Jordan and Kobe Taught Tim Grover about “Winning”

We like to think that we have a lot of winners on the BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast, whether they are in real estate or not. We may have one of […]

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Exactly How to Be Successful in Real Estate with a Partner

In the episode of the Exactly How podcast discussed in this article, Connected Investors’ host Shaun Young meets with RJ Pepino and Dave Payerchin — two real estate investors who share a partnership in their wholesaling and rental businesses. Payerchin and Pepino have captured quite a bit of attention over the last couple of years from the real estate investment community.

The pair appeared in the 2020 list of “Top 100 People” in Real Estate Magazine and have received numerous accolades — including an A-rating from the Better Business Bureau, a nomination for the 2019 Torch Award for excellence in business, and recognition by Next Wave Marketing as two of the “Top 20 Entrepreneurs Thriving During the Pandemic.” Given their decade of investing success, Payerchin and Pepino were the perfect pair to reach out to for this episode of Exactly How.

Follow along to learn exactly how to be successful in real estate with a partner courtesy of real-life business partners Dave Payerchin and RJ Pepino.

Getting to Know Successful Real Estate Investors Dave Payerchin and RJ Pepino

The business partners began their journey in investing separately in 2005 when both entered the real estate sector part-time. After a bit of bad luck during the financial crisis, Dave Payerchin moved back to Ohio — where both Payerchin and Pepino are from. They later met up in the midwestern state and founded their partnership in 2012. The pair have continued buying and operating rental properties together for the last nine years through their company Sell House Columbus — which has been rated “Central Ohio’s #1 Home Buyer.” The Accesswire press release “Top 20 Entrepreneurs And Their Tips For Success this Decade by NWM” describes Payerchin and Pepino’s working relationship — and company — in further depth.

According to the press release, Sell House Columbus is “a solutions-based house buying company…that helps prospects lease homes while working on their credit to eventually buy them.” The press release notes that the pair credits their success in real estate to having created a thoughtfully founded, “solutions-driven company” that maintains “customer service as [its] top priority.” In the future, Payerchin and Pepino plan to expand their company by establishing “a lending and consulting branch.”

As of this episode of the Exactly How podcast — recorded in March 2021 — Payerchin and Pepino have gathered over a hundred rentals and have transitioned to a virtual team.

Dave Payerchin Started Out in Construction

Before entering into real estate investing, both Payerchin and Pepino explored other avenues, with Payerchin delving into the construction industry in Phoenix. After leaving construction to make more money in sales as a telemarketer, Payerchin forayed into real estate by way of speculating and wholesaling. However — after the 2008 crash — Payerchin chose to move back to Ohio with the intention of beginning a rental property business.

RJ Pepino Began as a Tennis Player

Pepino — on the other hand — pursued higher education at Youngstown State University where he played tennis for the college as he worked towards a career as a doctor. After his career as a tennis player came to a close, Pepino landed a sales job and planned to climb the corporate ladder. Dissatisfied with his current career, Pepino decided to dip into real estate, beginning with a rehab project and later several wholesaling deals. Looking for a more consistent cash flow, Pepino wanted to pursue a rental business — a desire that was realized once Pepino reconnected with Payerchin in 2012.

Exactly How to Be Successful in Real Estate with a Partner

When asked by Shaun Young about their success in the real estate industry, both Payerchin and Pepino credited their years of teamwork and commitment. Payerchin and Pepino outline four key contributors to their achievement in real estate investing. These include persistence, “commitment to their craft,” “hanging in there during the very uncomfortable times” and not being afraid to make “big money swings” in the form of risks like private loans. Relying on their shared core values and leaning on each other’s commitment to the business and their goals for the future also helped Payerchin and Pepino succeed together as a partnership. Below, Payerchin and Pepino discuss exactly how to be successful in real estate with a partner — no matter whether one plans to pursue rental properties, wholesaling, or other avenues of investment.

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Pepino and Payerchin’s Three Step Action Plan to Real Estate Investing with a Partner

#1 Pick a Partner with Integrity and Communicate Openly

As Dave Payerchin explains, “honesty and integrity” are the top two most important elements of a successful partnership because if one or more partners lacks integrity, “it doesn’t matter how good the business partnership is or how good the business plan is…the business is going to fail.” Ensuring that each partner is honest and fair prevents lack of confidence and suspicion from breeding within the business, allowing the business to progress and flourish without uncertainty holding it back. To this end, RJ Pepino underscores the importance of clear, respectful communication and the sharing of explicit core values in any partnership. From the get-go, partners should openly communicate their expectations for the business and their boundaries moving forward. As such, choosing a partner who is open and honest is the first step in our list of how to be successful in real estate with a partner.

#2 Establish Upfront Exit Agreements

Outlining the second step in successfully working with a real estate partner, Dave Payerchin recommends clearly outlining an exit plan or clause for each partner should they want to be bought out or should they want to dissolve the partnership in the future. Because “life happens” and situations change, both partners should agree to upfront exit strategies that will leave both the partners and their business in good standing — even if one partner moves on and another takes his or her place.

#3 Avoid Uneven Partnerships

Payerchin recommends against unequal or lopsided partnerships in which “one partner brings in all the money” and the other is the “full-time operator.” Resentment can breed in these types of partnerships — which Payerchin describes as “lender-borrower types of relationships” — because the “guy who is doing the operations…is always going to be working harder than the guy who puts up the money.” Instead, Payerchin recommends finding a private lender who can infuse the business with cash, leaving the two partners to work together on a more even footing.


For more information about forming successful real estate partnerships — as well as a few pitfalls to avoid — head over to the Connected Investors Blog and check out the article “Recipes for Real Estate Partnership Disaster.

Transcript

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Speaker 1 (00:00):

On this episode of the Exactly How podcasts and YouTube show, we uncover exactly how to run a successful real estate business in a partnership. See you guys soon.

Speaker 2 (00:11):

You’re listening to the Exactly How podcast, where you’ll hear the underground, closely guarded wealth building secrets of successful people around the globe. Discover exactly how to improve your mental, physical, and financial health. Feel better, make more money live, give, and prosper in today’s exciting, fast paced world, build with opportunity for those who know exactly how

Shaun (00:40):

Welcome to the Exactly How podcasts and YouTube show brought to you by Connected Investors. And during this episode, you’ll discover exactly how to operate a successful real estate business with the partnership. Now, for those of you who are new, my name is Shaun Young, today’s host and proud member of the connected investor community. Now, before I introduce you to our next incredible guest speakers, we have two of them today. I want to make a request that if at any point during the show, you like what you’re hearing, please give us a thumbs up, subscribe to the show so that you don’t miss an episode and make sure to take a look into the description of this episode, as we’ve packed it with thousands of dollars in free resources. Now, today we have the privilege to learn from two gentlemen who run a successful rental business, wholesale business, as well as have a successful partnership.

Speaker 1 (01:30):

So I’d like to introduce you guys to the one, the only Dave Payerchin and RJ Pepino. David, thank you guys for being on today. Thanks for having us. Thanks Shaun. Glad to be here. Absolutely. Now gentlemen, before we get started, no, I’ll let you both have the opportunity, Dave, you know, before you began your career in real estate investing, can you tell us a little bit about what you had going on? Sure. So I was, uh, you know, just an average kid from Cleveland and as soon as I finished high school, I packed up my bags and hightailed out to sunny, Phoenix, Arizona. All I brought with me was, you know, bag of clothes, a tool belt, and a drill. I was going to do construction work out there. And then I found a little sales job, uh, that I was going to do in the evenings while I was living out in Arizona.

Speaker 1 (02:21):

And my sales job soon, uh, basically took over the construction. I was making more money doing sales than construction. So I got involved into telemarketing. I used to be a telemarketer for MCI WorldCom when they were still around and I kind of parlayed the sales thing into real estate, started going to Rhea meetings. Um, all the way back in 2005 is when I started out in Arizona and I started my career in real estate just by driving around neighborhoods, finding junkers old fashioned, right, driving for dollars and, uh, started a wholesaling business, um, in Oh five. And then if some of your listeners remember back in Oh seven Oh eight, the entire real estate market imploded because of all the bad loans they were writing. So I learned very quickly, uh, what being a speculator is a speculator, just hopes, things keep going up in value. And that’s what I was. And after that, I kind of had to lick my wounds, find my way back to Ohio. And then I started buying rental properties because I no longer wanted to be a speculator and keeping, keep hoping things go up in value. Hope is not a business model we wanted to consistent cashflow. So in 2012, 2013, I moved back, uh, from the West coast back to Ohio and started buying rental properties with RJ. And that’s a great segue into RJ. RJ, tell us a little bit about what you had going on.

Speaker 3 (03:48):

Yeah. I had some similar, uh, upbringings, I guess, with Dave, but uh, in, in terms of, uh, working for MCI as a interesting time, I learned, um, sales, uh, in that job. But you know, back before I did that, I was, um, um, playing tennis. So I was really good at tennis and um, high school and then in college and, um, I’m from Ohio. So I went to a college up North, uh, Youngstown state university. And, um, I went to that, um, college to play tennis and to actually become a doctor, be honest. And it was a interesting time for me because, um, I, it, with all that freedom and I’m able to kind of be on my own. I ended up, um, having a little bit too much fun my freshman year and, um, really had to rethink like, what do I really want to do that defining moment?

Speaker 3 (04:45):

Um, and I knew I wanted, I had the opportunity to get an education. And so I kind of grew up pretty quickly there. Um, and after my career, as a tennis player, I was looking for something, um, something else and I wanted to make money, you know, and, um, I landed a sales job and that’s my, my first sales job. And I don’t know how I got, because I had no, I knew nothing in sales, but I knew one skill and that skill was to model other people to become successful. And I think that Tony Robbins talks about that and, and the number of books that he’s written about modeling successful people. And I knew if I could do that in sales, I could succeed. So, um, I’m in there in the Bay, you know, in, in those times when the whole call center you’re in certain bays, right.

Speaker 3 (05:34):

If anybody has been in your listeners have been, um, on the phone, I was in the Bay and I’m like asking my manager at that time, who’s the best salesperson in our Bay. I was a part of a, of a team. And so I would in the middle of the calls, um, I would take breaks and go and shadow this one guy who was just all the every day, day in and day out would get five sales. And at that point that, that was no, he’s making well over a hundred thousand dollars, just, just having five sales a day. And so, um, I got really good at telemarketing. Um, but unfortunately MCI went away, you know, and they went bankrupt and filed BK or whatever. There’s a bunch of scandal going on and I’m in the middle of a work one day. We just see, uh, highlighted above the screen, like we’re for closing down the shop.

Speaker 3 (06:26):

So, um, I was looking for something else. Um, I knew I was going to begin in the sales, so I got another job in sales. And at that point 18 and T, um, was singular singular, uh, that was selling phones. So I actually sold the first time and, um, the first model that was out there. So I did that for a while and I’m real successful in that as well, and got promoted to become a manager store assistant manager and the store manager. And I was looking to have just a, you know, no, it was more incumbent and also more freedom. I was just like working so many hours, you know, and, and retail hours, um, 68 hours a week. And, um, I was looking for a way to get out of that grind and I thought it was to climb that corporate ladder. Um, my brother turned me on into a book that most of your listeners probably have listened to or read.

Speaker 3 (07:20):

And it’s a rich dad, poor dad. And that book right there changed my whole mindset. My awareness level taught me about the four quadrants, how to be a business owner. And more importantly, it got me turned on to real estate. And so that led me down the path of trying to get into real estate. And I got into, um, you know, uh, rehab that didn’t go too well. That was my very first, uh, uh, experience with real estate and got into wholesaling after that. And that led me into, you know, finding the fact that, Hey, you know, for me to get that lifestyle, I have to get monthly cashflow from rentals. Uh, and then I met Dave and about 2010, I believe, and started to, um, just, uh, um, you know, start to kind of, we started that relationship. He was in a previous, uh, uh, in a previous world, he was with another company, a sales company, and we just kept in touch.

Speaker 3 (08:17):

And finally, in 2012, we made that decision to say, Hey, look, then we can partner up and buy these homes. Um, in Columbus, Ohio, here are the numbers, you know, you can get, you can be all in, on the house for 25 K at that point, and it can rent for 700 bucks. So we’re like, yeah, let’s, let’s partner up rentals. And, um, you know, let’s, let’s, uh, hit some home runs. So that, that was the, uh, kind of in a nutshell, that’s how Dave and I formed through. Uh, now we have over a hundred rentals and, um, you know, we have a team that’s virtual and, um, that’s kind of our story and that condensed form.

Speaker 4 (09:00):

That is awesome. RJ, that, I mean, that sounds like you guys are definitely doing very well now, before we dive into exactly how to be successful in real estate with a partner, um, you know, what, what would you guys say that you’re contributing your success to and why do you think that that has played such a big role in you guys being able to be successful as a team?

Speaker 1 (09:20):

Great question. Um, I think one thing that comes up for me is right behind you. Um, I see the word persistence, and that’s like one of those cliche words that says, Oh, never give up and, and hang in there, but truly, uh, to be able to hang in there, um, and fully commit to, uh, our craft, which happens to be real estate, right. But to fully commit and be able to hang in there during the very uncomfortable times and the uncomfortable times, don’t always come in the form of hard work, you know, cause we’re all built to work hard. Um, it comes in the form of, you know, big swings, big money swings, RJ, and I’ve experienced major swings, you know, and it gets nerve wracking at times. We’ve also taken on huge risk together, uh, in the form of loans and private loans. And we wrote our name on the dotted line, you know, as the owner of the company.

Speaker 1 (10:09):

And, uh, we had this conversation with our team today. So, uh, just really, you know, being willing to take those risks, a lot of people are not willing to take those kinds of risks. And now we actually, along with you, Shaun, and we can help people take calculated risks. Uh, RJ and I very much in the early days where, you know, fire first aim, second kind of guys, and we raised a whole bunch of expensive money. We were giving up half of our deal, um, in other partnerships. So that’s kind of what we’re going to be talking about today. Um, but really just, I would say what comes up for me, persistence and the ability to hang in there during the uncomfortable times, which are inevitable to any business. What about you RJ?

Speaker 3 (10:50):

Yeah, I would say that also, you know, it’s, um, it’s sticking to, um, basically one thing long enough to master and not getting so, uh, derailed and, um, unfocused and there’s so much, um, opportunities that come our way now with the success that we’ve had. Um, and then even in the success that we were having along the way, there was stuff that always pop up, you know, and, um, it was being focused on task at hand and just being like, all right, we’re going to do this and be masters at this. And before we go off and do something else that just, you know, is not even in the same, uh, core business that we’re in. And so nowadays we have what we call is like, you know, um, more or less like some core values that, um, and you know, that we kind of stand by and if it’s, there’s an opportunity that comes through the pipeline and a lot of them do every day, you know, um, if it doesn’t fit kind of what our mission or core value is, we’re just going to no and be firm with that. Because if we know that it’s just going to derail us into something that’s just unproductive and, um, we’re not going to get anywhere. So we’ve gotten really good at that too. Shaun,

Speaker 4 (12:04):

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Speaker 1 (13:14):

Absolutely. So we have a community of our own and we call it the cream. If you can see behind myself and RJ and the cream stands for cash flow real estate and money, because that’s what we’re all about. Making money, building wealth, building portfolios and creating financial freedom. So our website is www.arisewiththecream.com. Uh, my Instagram handle is at the real Dave P and RJ. Where can people find you on Instagram? Yeah,

Speaker 3 (13:46):

I’m on at RJ pepino just had they see it on the screen here. It says my name. Um, we’ve got a ton of videos there, a lot of, uh, content that we’ve, um, we’re putting out there. I’m not charging anything for it. It’s just lessons and, um, you know, solid tips on building a rental portfolio, um, managing money, how to raise private money. Um, I, I have, uh, a series of single family rental tips, and these are just all lessons that we’ve learned from owning five rentals, 10 rentals, 50 rentals, uh, and now, uh, up to 130 rentals. So, um, if your listeners want to go there, um, certainly give us a like comment, ask questions and, um, we’ll answer all of, all of those comments. So

Speaker 4 (14:35):

Absolutely. And guys, yeah, make sure you comment and hit that like button, you know, um, these, uh, these YouTubes and the different search engines, they like those types of algorithms to make sure you hit that like button for us and, and, you know, keeping abreast of what’s going on out there. That’s how you stay attuned. So that’s great news. Great, great stuff, guys. Thanks for giving us information, how we can get ahold of you now, Dave, what would you say are the three most important things to make a successful partnership operate?

Speaker 1 (15:02):

Well, that’s a great question. Three most successful things for a successful partnership. I would say number one, honesty and integrity, because if you’re going to be a thief, it doesn’t matter how good the business partnership is or how good the business plan is. If you’re going to steal the business is going to fail. The partnership is not going to work out, not to stay at the obvious, but it’s good to get a reminder for everybody. Um, number two, I would say, you know, to actually have upfront agreements and have an exit plan or clause, if one person wanted to be bought out, they didn’t, they decided they didn’t want to do real estate or whatever type of business that you’re starting with a partner, um, kind of have upfront agreements and have some kind of exit strategy if a life circumstances change. And number three is, you know, avoid partnerships where one partner is bringing all the money.

Speaker 1 (15:55):

The other partner is going to be the full-time operator. That’s more of a lender borrower type of relationship, not so much a, you know, a business partnership where basically in the real estate space, I’ve seen that fail Shaun, because the guy that brings all the money, um, you know, sure they’re going to put up the money and, uh, the guy who was doing the operations, I’m sorry, they’re always going to be working harder than the guy who put up the money. And then the guy who puts up the money, he’s never really going to know how hard it is to, you know, find deals and do all that. So the operator in that situation is going to be much better off to be the operator, be the boots on the ground. And then instead of having a money partner and giving away half of their business, just find a private lender, who’s willing to lend against a deal on a deal per deal basis, rather than just bringing on a money partner who gets 50% of everything, regardless of how hard the operator’s working no matter

Speaker 4 (16:50):

Or what. Great, great, great, great advice, Dave. Great advice. Are they do RJ, did you want to add anything to that?

Speaker 3 (16:57):

Yeah. What I wanted to add is just kind of piggybacking on what Dave talked about being open and honest is that you also need to have that with your communication. Um, and you communicate, uh, more frequently, especially now that we’re all, um, virtual and we don’t really see each other as much. Um, so, you know, we touch base pretty much daily and have communication that sometimes it’s tough. Sometimes it’s talking about the unlockables and, and communicating in a way that’s respectful. That’s worked for us. Um, also the next thing is core values. We have very similar core values. And when, when you’re forming a partnership, um, you know, you, you want to have like some sort of interview process, right? You really want to know who you’re getting into business with and right off the bat, um, you know, when Dave and I met, we had very similar kind of upbringings middle-class family, uh, worked really hard to work ethic was.

Speaker 3 (17:50):

Um, and so, you know, that, that was one core value that we still have today is that we’re relentless, you know, we’re persistent like, uh, what you have in behind you. Um, so it’s, uh, it’s something that has helped us go through the tough times and earlier in this, uh, uh, on this, uh, and this zoom, we’re talking about the swings and business, you know, we’ve gone through some really low times, but we were able to figure it out and push through and, and that’s led to, you know, many more upswings. Right. Um, so I think those, I just want to add those two key things that that’s how our business has thrived, um, through these years.

Speaker 4 (18:29):

That’s great. I think you and Dave both mentioned a lot of great points. You know, two points, two points I want to emphasize is that, you know, you know, Dave really, you know, emphasize the fact that, you know, it doesn’t really work if you’ve got, um, like a finance seer, so to speak, you’ve got someone that just says, Hey, I’ve got a bunch of money and that you go get it done. Because like Dave said, I mean, you’re going to run into that situation where the guy who’s getting it done is going to feel like he’s doing it all at, at some point. And, and he’s going to probably figure out how to get, you know, break away from this partnership anyway. So like, like Dave said, you got to kind of got to make it more of a mutual, beneficial, um, relationship, um, bring qualities to the table that maybe the other person doesn’t have, you know, things of that nature. You know, I think that that definitely is going to be key. And like RJ said, you know, what, what are your core values? Have you guys even discussed, you know, core values, you know, is that something that’s important to you at all? You know, stuff like that. We’ll, we’ll, um, into partnership very quickly, because like you say, if, uh, if you’re not, if you don’t have integrity and one person does, it’s going to have, it’s going to be hard to operate together.

Speaker 3 (19:35):

Yeah. So that those are all, those are all the points. Um, that, I mean, we can expand on some other things, but those are the main key things that keep this, uh, partnership, um, you know, silence, the hardest sweat, what, what’s the hardest ship to sail Dave

Speaker 1 (19:50):

Ship to sail is a partnership. Shaun. So you’ve got to set it up right from the base.

Speaker 4 (19:54):

I liked that. I liked that. I liked it. The hardest ship to sail is a partnership. So set it up right from the beginning. So it can sail properly, man. I like that one. Now guys out there as a reminder, if at any point in the show, you like what you’re hearing, make sure you give us a thumbs up, subscribe to this show so that you don’t miss an episode because it’s your engagement that keeps us doing this for the community for free. So, so Dave, let me ask you this, you know, and RJ, you know, what do you guys think your life would be like if you never started investing in real estate?

Speaker 1 (20:26):

I would, uh, pretty much probably be, um, somebody who drinks a ton of coffee and, you know, hammers the phone and make sales calls all day. I’ll wait a second. I still am that. Um, but basically, no, I mean, I certainly wouldn’t, um, probably not have the confidence that I, and, uh, we were talking about our goals today and some of the goals that we set early on, they felt like such a far distant reach for me at that time. For instance, one of the goals was having a portfolio worth $20 million or more. I thought that was so far out of reach, you know, and then another one was like, to own a hundred properties are more like, how is this ever going to happen? Right. And, uh, you know, real estate. And my partnership with RJ, RJ has really pushed the, pushed me, you know, to be a higher and better version of myself. And, um, I think without real estate, I just wouldn’t have that confidence. I probably would not believe that I’m capable of some of the stuff that we’ve done and then moving forward capable of, of what’s to come. So really the sky’s the limit at this point. And it, you know, it really comes from, you know, doing real estate business, hitting goals and, uh, just to expanding that belief system. Got it. Got it. What about you RJ?

Speaker 3 (21:42):

Yeah, I think, uh, I don’t know what I’d be, man. I was going, I was on this path to become a doctor, you know, like every Asian family that comes here to America strives to be this doctor, but who knows. Um, and, and this journey of being an entrepreneur entrepreneur, um, I’ve learned how to communicate a lot more, um, more open and, and better, and, and just, you know, these are the skills that, um, I’d never would have had just in school, you know, and in high school. And I was never that social at all. And so a lot of the, um, you know, my growing up per se happened in college and after that hiring mentors and we still have mentors today. And so, um, I just, I don’t know where I would be. It’s certainly not where I am now. And, um, I just imagined myself.

Speaker 3 (22:33):

There was a turning point that I remember I was sitting in 18 T and I was, uh, I was interviewing, um, jobs to, in sales to be a, uh, a pharmaceutical rep. And I was down to the last interview and it was either that interview to get the job or an, I had already started, um, wholesaling or to stick with wholesaling, you know, and it was, I, I went to the right with the wholesaling and that’s, uh, if I would have said, no, I don’t know where I’d have been probably sales somewhere. You know, I don’t know, but I definitely chose the right path is what I’m trying to say,

Speaker 4 (23:10):

Man, this has been awesome this episode. I definitely appreciate you guys. You know, Sharon, you know, all your insight into great partnerships, you know, it lets me know that I need a great partnership. You know, sometimes like you hear these things, Oh, you don’t need a partner to do it all yourself, you know, but you can’t go anywhere by yourself or what did they say? You go, go fast alone, but go far together. So, um, you know, I like that. I like how you guys have definitely, uh, weather, the storm together. Your ship is, uh, you know, you filled in the holes and you’ve got it going where it’s got to go. And that’s what it’s all about now. Now guys, uh, that brings us to the next part of show that we call the rapid

Speaker 1 (23:46):

Fire session. And this is where I asked you guys a question and you give me the first answer that comes to mind. You guys ready, man? I’m, I’m a little nervous, but I guess I’m ready. You didn’t know about this on this. It was sprung this on, on a scale from one to 10. How strict were your parents? RJ? Uh, three.

Speaker 3 (24:14):

Oh yeah. Mine was 10 for sure. There was an 11. I choose 11

Speaker 1 (24:19):

Get up early, stay up late.

Speaker 3 (24:22):

I’m an early, I’m an early riser, but I also stay up late. So yeah,

Speaker 1 (24:26):

As I get older, I wake up earlier. I’ve always been a stay up late guy, but now I can’t. I mean, we’ve got a six year old in the other room and dogs and families. So I don’t really have a choice anymore, but I’m very much a stay up late guy. Well, how many hours of sleep do you get? Each night? I, RJ is probably gone down. I just got a brand new baby at home, but he, uh, I get seven, eight hours of sleep at night.

Speaker 3 (24:52):

Yeah. I’m averaging three to four on a good night right now. But before that it was, uh, six to seven.

Speaker 1 (24:58):

Okay. Favorite or last book read almost alchemy by Dan Kennedy. The last book.

Speaker 3 (25:10):

Um, so mine was how to, I got a F I, it was an audio book. Uh, but I’ll, I’ll give you a favorite book. Um, I really like, uh, I see myself, um, in my personal development, really jumped leaps and bounds, I guess, with a high-performance habits.

Speaker 1 (25:28):

It’s a really good book by Brendan Bouchard.

Speaker 3 (25:31):

Oh yeah. My Brendan Bouchard. Yeah, they’ve read it too.

Speaker 1 (25:34):

That’s good. Something that everyone should do. Less of a gossip.

Speaker 3 (25:47):

That’s good. That’s a good one. Um, mine, um, staring on computer screens,

Speaker 1 (25:55):

Something that everyone should do more of trying to go ahead, Dave, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (26:03):

Pick up the phone and call a loved one.

Speaker 1 (26:06):

Say I love you. Okay. Bitcoin bang, go. Bust boss bust. Well, people live on Mars in your lifetime, not live, but they’ll probably be, uh, my, my take is not live on Mars, but we’ll certainly, uh, set foot there in the next five years.

Speaker 3 (26:30):

Thank you. Um, yeah, there’s going to be a, disclosure’s coming real soon that we’ve already been there.

Speaker 1 (26:36):

Right? Well guys, thank you guys so much for being guests on our show. I mean, I’ve really enjoyed your to get your guys’ presence and

Speaker 4 (26:44):

All the information that you’ve shared with us and audience out there. You’ve made it to the end of the show and most people never finish what they start. So you’re special. So if you got any value out of today’s show, share this with a friend on your Facebook page, like this video, subscribe to our channel and send us topics that you want to learn more about. And like I said earlier, nearly a million people use the connected investor social network as a marketplace and a platform to connect. So in the description of this video is included a link to this episodes form discussion. All you have to do is tap that link, ask me and other pros questions and see what other investors are saying about this very episode. So until the next episode, guys, I’ll catch you on the inside of connecting investors. See you on the inside.

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